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- Some of the relationships felt a little forced - one journey on the Falcon and Rey and Han have a daddy/daughter relationship already? I didn't feel all that onboard with where some of the relationships had arrived at by the end of the movie - and Leia bypassing Chewy to hug Rey, whom she's never met (that we know)?

You think these relationships seem rushed? Go back and rewatch Star Wars. It's weird how quickly Leia gets close with both Luke and Han.

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- Some of the relationships felt a little forced - one journey on the Falcon and Rey and Han have a daddy/daughter relationship already? I didn't feel all that onboard with where some of the relationships had arrived at by the end of the movie - and Leia bypassing Chewy to hug Rey, whom she's never met (that we know)?

You think these relationships seem rushed? Go back and rewatch Star Wars. It's weird how quickly Leia gets close with both Luke and Han.

I blame Jimmy Smits

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Steel Frog wrote:
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- Some of the relationships felt a little forced - one journey on the Falcon and Rey and Han have a daddy/daughter relationship already? I didn't feel all that onboard with where some of the relationships had arrived at by the end of the movie - and Leia bypassing Chewy to hug Rey, whom she's never met (that we know)?

You think these relationships seem rushed? Go back and rewatch Star Wars. It's weird how quickly Leia gets close with both Luke and Han.

I blame Jimmy Smits


Also, look at A new Hope. Ben Kenobe has no memory of R2D2, who had saved his life numerous times... Ben Kenobe is a dick.

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Upon further thought, how the hell is Ren able to use the Force to stop a laser beam, but then is caught in a rather epic lightsaber battle with Finn? Too Disney.

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Upon further thought, how the hell is Ren able to use the Force to stop a laser beam, but then is caught in a rather epic lightsaber battle with Finn? Too Disney.


Chewbacca had just shot him with the crossbow weapon which we'd seen all film kicked ass. Plus he'd just gone through some pretty emotional stuff so I can see how he'd struggle

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Did it bother anybody else that there seemed to be virtually no alien species that we'd previously seen in the other movies?

I mean aside from the named ones, like Ackbar and Chewbacca, of course.

I think one of the resistance pilots may have been a Dug (like Sebulba...jackhole pod racer guy), but I'm not sure.

Beyond that I think that every alien we saw (and we saw a lot) was a new species. With as many nods to the old stuff as we got, I'd have thought we'd have seen an Aqualish (Ponda Baba...cantina guy who loses the arm), Twi'lek (Bib Fortuna...guy at Jabba's palace with the head tentacles), Rodian (Greedo...guy at Mos Eisley who shot first) or something...anything...resembling a previously encountered alien race.

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Did it bother anybody else that there seemed to be virtually no alien species that we'd previously seen in the other movies?

I mean aside from the named ones, like Ackbar and Chewbacca, of course.

I think one of the resistance pilots may have been a Dug (like Sebulba...jackhole pod racer guy), but I'm not sure.

Beyond that I think that every alien we saw (and we saw a lot) was a new species. With as many nods to the old stuff as we got, I'd have thought we'd have seen an Aqualish (Ponda Baba...cantina guy who loses the arm), Twi'lek (Bib Fortuna...guy at Jabba's palace with the head tentacles), Rodian (Greedo...guy at Mos Eisley who shot first) or something...anything...resembling a previously encountered alien race.

Can't say it bothered me. But now that you bring it up, yeah, it's kind of strange they didn't reuse some species from earlier movies.

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Did it bother anybody else that there seemed to be virtually no alien species that we'd previously seen in the other movies?

I mean aside from the named ones, like Ackbar and Chewbacca, of course.

I think one of the resistance pilots may have been a Dug (like Sebulba...jackhole pod racer guy), but I'm not sure.

Beyond that I think that every alien we saw (and we saw a lot) was a new species. With as many nods to the old stuff as we got, I'd have thought we'd have seen an Aqualish (Ponda Baba...cantina guy who loses the arm), Twi'lek (Bib Fortuna...guy at Jabba's palace with the head tentacles), Rodian (Greedo...guy at Mos Eisley who shot first) or something...anything...resembling a previously encountered alien race.

Can't say it bothered me. But now that you bring it up, yeah, it's kind of strange they didn't reuse some species from earlier movies.

the blatant Filipino fish face kinda alien (Lando's co-pilot in Episode VI) was piloting one of the X-Wings. Other than that, yeah, lots of new species.


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Did it bother anybody else that there seemed to be virtually no alien species that we'd previously seen in the other movies?

I mean aside from the named ones, like Ackbar and Chewbacca, of course.

I think one of the resistance pilots may have been a Dug (like Sebulba...jackhole pod racer guy), but I'm not sure.

Beyond that I think that every alien we saw (and we saw a lot) was a new species. With as many nods to the old stuff as we got, I'd have thought we'd have seen an Aqualish (Ponda Baba...cantina guy who loses the arm), Twi'lek (Bib Fortuna...guy at Jabba's palace with the head tentacles), Rodian (Greedo...guy at Mos Eisley who shot first) or something...anything...resembling a previously encountered alien race.

Can't say it bothered me. But now that you bring it up, yeah, it's kind of strange they didn't reuse some species from earlier movies.

the blatant Filipino fish face kinda alien (Lando's co-pilot in Episode VI) was piloting one of the X-Wings. Other than that, yeah, lots of new species.

That guy is the same character...Nien Nunb...not just another of his species.

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TK421 wrote:
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Did it bother anybody else that there seemed to be virtually no alien species that we'd previously seen in the other movies?

I mean aside from the named ones, like Ackbar and Chewbacca, of course.

I think one of the resistance pilots may have been a Dug (like Sebulba...jackhole pod racer guy), but I'm not sure.

Beyond that I think that every alien we saw (and we saw a lot) was a new species. With as many nods to the old stuff as we got, I'd have thought we'd have seen an Aqualish (Ponda Baba...cantina guy who loses the arm), Twi'lek (Bib Fortuna...guy at Jabba's palace with the head tentacles), Rodian (Greedo...guy at Mos Eisley who shot first) or something...anything...resembling a previously encountered alien race.

Can't say it bothered me. But now that you bring it up, yeah, it's kind of strange they didn't reuse some species from earlier movies.

the blatant Filipino fish face kinda alien (Lando's co-pilot in Episode VI) was piloting one of the X-Wings. Other than that, yeah, lots of new species.

That guy is the same character...Nien Nunb...not just another of his species.

Hmm...I wonder if it was done for merchandising reasons.

Like if Lucas retained/owns the rights to all of the previous alien races, they may have decided to use none and avoid having to pay him.

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wow....a lot to read through, but that's what I get for waiting so long to see it. Will be going back very soon for a 2nd showing to pick up things I'm sure I missed. For now, going to go with :4stars: I did love it, but thought there were just a few too many nods to Eps IV & V (it's a fine line between homage and rip-off). That being said, I was hooked right from the initial opening crawl, just waiting to see if the camera would pan up or down.

Big +: I love Rey's character and only hope she will get better through Eps VIII & IX. Of all the comments as to her parentage, I find A2's the most plausible (You are really sick, please don't ever change :tongue: ).

Big -: Is Kylo really angry he'll never measure up to grand-dad, or childishly acting out (apparently, petulance skips a generation)

Too bad Max von Sydow didn't last long. Has always been one of my favorite actors.

so when will the "shimmering" Anakin/Yoda/Obi Wan show up?

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so when will the "shimmering" Anakin/Yoda/Obi Wan show up?


Who knows? I imagine Hayden Christensen is pretty busy.

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Not that any of you are dying for my two cents, but the FrogBlog publishes this review Monday

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TK421 wrote:
Did it bother anybody else that there seemed to be virtually no alien species that we'd previously seen in the other movies?


No. In fact the rehumanization of the universe was appreciated by this viewer. I've long said that the movies started losing their connection for me in RotJ with the oversaturation of aliens. Star Wars resonates best when we can relate most easily with the beings we see.

I'd like to think the limitation of the quantity of aliens was a conscious decision made to return to a more human-centric universe. Given that we were introduced to entirely new worlds it made sense to me that the aliens we did see would be mostly new to us as well.

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Not that any of you are dying for my two cents, but the FrogBlog publishes this review Monday

Woohoo!

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Funnily though (well not really funny) this is the first film since fight club that I've seen more than once in the cinema!

Great review though, I'm starting to hope we can give you a one off specialist review a month just for our personal enjoyment :D

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Does anyone else think that Luke is standing at a gravesite at the end of the movie? Possibly his wife's?
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Does anyone else think that Luke is standing at a gravesite at the end of the movie? Possibly his wife's?
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Or just a funny rock?


Nice catch. Never noticed that before. Thought just s rock but now I dunno!

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...the ways that Episodes IV and VII mirror each other.
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1. There’s a droid carrying valuable information who finds himself on a desolate desert planet.

2. There’s a Force-sensitive, masked, and darkly clothed antagonist who arrives on the scene shortly after the information is handed off, looking for the droid.

3. There’s a desert settlement that is wiped out by stormtroopers.

4. There’s a hero who’s tortured by the bad guys to retrieve the information.

5. There’s a lonely, Force-strong desert dweller who dreams of more.

6. There’s a worldly old warrior who has to explain the Force to the next generation.

7. There’s a cruel military officer who holds a comparable level of authority to his Force-sensitive, masked, and darkly clothed colleague.

8. There’s a mostly unseen supreme evil that’s pulling the strings from the shadows.

9. There’s a criminal element that’s owed a debt by Han Solo and attempts to kill him after he screws up their arrangement.

10. There’s a cantina filled with various alien creatures.

11. There’s a moment when one of the heroes abandons the fight as a self-preservation measure, but he eventually returns.

12. There’s a massive spherical weapon that’s used to destroy a planet.

13. There’s a base belonging to the rebel forces on a forest-covered world.

14. There’s a surrogate father figure who is cut down by someone previously close to him, who has turned to the dark side.

15. The hero watches helplessly from afar as the surrogate father figure is slayed.

16. There’s a coordinated aerial attack on the massive spherical weapon that’s monitored from a control room by Leia.

17. There’s a trench that X-wings flew through in order to fire on a vulnerability in the weapon and destroy it.

18. There’s a massive explosion that gives the rebels a major victory but likely allows the Force-sensitive, masked, and darkly clothed antagonist to survive to fight another day.


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Only 18? I'm shocked, shocked I say!

Where's the list comparing V & VII? Here's a start....
1. A light saber is stuck in the snow and retrieved using the force (ok, am I the only one thinking Kylo could have just walked over and picked it up? At least Luke in V had an excuse)
2. Someone loses a hand to a light saber
3. A father and son confront one another on an elevated walkway
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Is it just me or...


Well, I've been calling him Darth Snape in conversations with Mrs. 421, so not just you.

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Finally saw it. so that's what it's like to see a good Star Wars movie in theaters.

I'm a little surprised that there's conversations about who are Rey's parents- I thought the movie made that pretty clear. But again, they might surprise us.

I really liked the newcomers. Never would have guessed that Lena Dunham's boyfriend from Girls would make a great villain. Can't wait to see more of them.

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Finally saw it. so that's what it's like to see a good Star Wars movie in theaters.

I'm a little surprised that there's conversations about who are Rey's parents- I thought the movie made that pretty clear. But again, they might surprise us.

I really liked the newcomers. Never would have guessed that Lena Dunham's boyfriend from Girls would make a great villain. Can't wait to see more of them.

I think it's that they made it so very clear without coming right out and explicitly saying it. Thus everyone is suspecting it is a red herring.

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