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"Book Into Film" Tourney-Winner: ...Cuckoo's Nest

#1 Post by Agrajag » 30 Dec 2005, 18:32

Did my best searching FW to see if this was ever done before.... Couldn't find anything so I thought I'd start my very first tournament. :banana:


Many live by the motto: "Never judge a book by its movie" (thx Gopan) but every now and again a novel/novella/short story does inspire a good, maybe even great film.

I'm bored, and I'm sure most everyone else will be too once the holidays are over, so, here's where I need your help. Start throwing out some good films that started in the library. We'll aim for 32, but most likely will stretch to 64 (maybe even 128! :eek: ) For now, I'm going to exclude plays -> movies to try to keep within the 64 bracket. If necessary we can add them in to even it out.

Just to be clear, it is not a prerequisite for the the movie to be better than the book (oftentimes this is impossible). Most of my nominations, I have never read the source material and some I know the novel was much better. When we get to voting (maybe not in the first round) we'll adhere to the rules that you must have seen both films in order to vote in that matchup. If we required reading & watching I'd think we'd have a lot of No Votes.

Also, feel free to double/triple/n-tuple nominate films. It will help me try to even out each of the brackets to avoid the main contenders going head-to-head Rd 1.

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#2 Post by Agrajag » 30 Dec 2005, 18:32

Nominations/Seeds
Received 2 nominations
Seed Title Top 250 Rating Votes
1 The Godfather 1 9.1 148704
2 Shawshank Redemption 2 9 179866
3 The Godfather Part II 3 8.9 85336
4 LotR: RotK 4 8.9 133825
5 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 12 8.7 81353
6 Silence of the Lambs 28 8.5 105140
7 Million Dollar Baby 53 8.3 37508
8 Sin City 73 8.3 67523
9 Cool Hand Luke 117 8.1 16592
10 The Princess Bride 121 8.1 61304
11 The Green Mile 130 8 71266
12 The Thin Man NA 8 5822
13 HP Prisoner of Azkaban NA 7.8 35045
14 High Fidelity NA 7.6 33994
15 Wonder Boys NA 7.6 17639
16 Jurassic Park NA 7.5 66295

17 Schindler’s List 5 8.8 39564
18 LotR: FotR 13 8.7 182088
19 Rear Window 14 8.7 47803
20 LotR: TTT 15 8.6 138637
21 City of God 16 8.6 47803
22 Dr. Strangelove o:HILtSWaLtB 18 8.6 73436
23 Goodfellas 25 8.5 80881
24 Fight Club 33 8.5 134851
25 Apocalypse Now 37 8.4 75058
26 To Kill A Mockingbird 40 8.4 35028
27 The Pianist 41 8.4 39166
28 Requiem for a Dream 50 8.3 59514
29 The Maltese Falcon 54 8.4 22438
30 L.A. Confidential 55 8.3 78828
31 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 61 8.3 12289
32 All About Eve 62 8.5 15146
33 A Clockwork Orange 64 8.3 76423
34 The Shining 75 8.3 60552
35 Rebecca 84 8.2 13542
36 2001: A Space Odyssey 86 8.2 73835
37 Jaws 92 8.2 55147
38 Strangers on a Train (1951) 93 8.2 12574
39 Forrest Gump 100 8.2 105948
40 Blade Runner 101 8.2 84630
41 Full Metal Jacket 103 8.1 56079
42 The Big Sleep 106 8.3 11742
43 Yojimbo 109 8.1 11041
44 Ben-Hur 124 8 24321
45 The Graduate 126 8 32044
46 The Grapes of Wrath 154 8 9166
47 Gone With the Wind 161 7.9 33521
48 Shrek 162 7.9 76733
49 Mystic River 163 7.9 37357
50 Stand By Me 168 7.9 36029
51 Trainspotting 188 7.9 60605
52 Young Frankenstein 195 7.9 25946
53 The Exorcist 203 7.9 40459
54 Sideways 214 7.9 28377
55 All the President’s Men 225 7.8 14812
56 Frankenstein (1931) 236 7.8 7517
57 Doctor Zhivago 242 7.8 11872
58 Great Expectations (1946) NA 8.2 2757
59 The Last Picture Show NA 8 6181
60 JFK NA 7.9 29917
61 Adaptation. NA 7.9 29768
62 Minority Report NA 7.8 60178
63 A Beautiful Mind NA 7.8 50711
64 O Brother, Where Art Thou? NA 7.8 43207
65 HP Goblet of Fire NA 7.8 32520
66 American Splendor NA 7.8 10695
67 From Here To Eternity NA 7.8 6785
68 When the Wind Blows (1986) NA 7.8 546
69 Road to Perdition NA 7.7 35768
70 Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory NA 7.7 21146
71 Sense and Sensibility NA 7.7 15605
72 The Player NA 7.7 14765
73 Breakfast at Tiffanys NA 7.7 14183
74 Der Name der Rose NA 7.7 13502
75 Field of Dreams NA 7.6 23668
76 Misery NA 7.6 15268
77 Midnight Express NA 7.6 8928
78 Dracula (1931) NA 7.6 4855
79 Kiss Me Deadly NA 7.6 2239
80 Apollo 13 NA 7.5 45740
81 Jackie Brown NA 7.5 34229
82 About a Boy NA 7.5 21591
83 A Room With a View NA 7.5 7064
84 Little Women (1933) NA 7.5 1154
85 The Cider House Rules NA 7.4 21547
86 Election NA 7.4 19898
87 Scent of a Woman NA 7.4 19342
88 Babe NA 7.4 18819
89 The Phantom of the Opera (2004) NA 7.4 17675
90 Quiz Show NA 7.4 12764
91 The Last Temptation of Christ NA 7.4 9393
92 The Quiet American NA 7.4 7083
93 Of Mice and Men (1992) NA 7.4 6217
94 Moby Dick (1956) NA 7.4 2241
95 HP Chamber of Secrets NA 7.3 48666
96 The Passion of the Christ NA 7.3 40045
97 Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas NA 7.3 27178
98 October Sky NA 7.7 14823
99 Chronicles of Narnia: TLtW&tW NA 7.3 23084
100 Out of Sight NA 7.3 20780
101 Fried Green Tomatoes NA 7.3 12091
102 Howards End NA 7.3 5725
103 HP Sorceror's Stone NA 7.2 56158
104 Interview With a Vampire NA 7.2 31470
105 Terms of Endearment NA 7.2 6925
106 Holes NA 7.2 6399
107 Bram Stoker's Dracula NA 7.1 23534
108 Manhunter NA 7.1 8551
109 Fahrenheit 451 NA 7.1 4877
110 Lord of the Flies (1963) NA 7.1 1962
111 Get Shorty NA 7 17037
112 The World According to Garp NA 7 6302
113 Catch-22 NA 7 4090
114 Our Man in Havana NA 7 483
115 American Psycho NA 6.9 27701
116 1984 NA 6.9 4960
117 Rumble Fish NA 6.9 4032
118 The Outsiders NA 6.8 8753
119 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy NA 6.7 22053
120 Primary Colors NA 6.7 8658
121 The Firm NA 6.6 16964
122 Hannibal NA 6.3 33025
123 Kiss the Girls NA 6.3 10393
124 The Great Gatsby NA 6.1 2856
125 Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1994) NA 6 8173
126 Dangerous Minds NA 5.7 7231
127 The Bonfire of the Vanities NA 5 4751
128 Johnny Mnemonic NA 4.6 9407

I think these numbers were accurate as of Wed 11 Jan.

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#3 Post by Agrajag » 30 Dec 2005, 18:33

64 was the max for bracketmaker.com, so we have two brackets whose "Championship" Games are actualy the Semi Finals.
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#4 Post by Mr.StayPuft » 30 Dec 2005, 18:40

well, not to be a pain but what about something like Phantom of the Opera? A book with a play made (loosely) from it and a movie of the play?


Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
Frankenstein (1931)
Dracula (1931)
Bram Stoker's Dracula
The Passion of the Christ
Silence of the Lambs
Jurassic Park
Minority Report
Blade Runner
Lord of the Rings
Harry Potters
Moby Dick
Sin City?


think of more later.

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#5 Post by Agrajag » 30 Dec 2005, 18:56

Mr.StayPuft wrote:well, not to be a pain but what about something like Phantom of the Opera? A book with a play made (loosely) from it and a movie of the play?
Not a pain at all... I say acceptable because there is a valid argument that there is a novel that exists on which the movie is based (with some other material in between the two). Now are you talking PotO (2004) or an earlier version?
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#6 Post by Mr.StayPuft » 30 Dec 2005, 19:00

Agrajag wrote:
Mr.StayPuft wrote:well, not to be a pain but what about something like Phantom of the Opera? A book with a play made (loosely) from it and a movie of the play?
Not a pain at all... I say acceptable because there is a valid argument that there is a novel that exists on which the movie is based (with some other material in between the two). Now are you talking PotO (2004) or an earlier version?

let's go 2004, i don't particularly want to encourage people to watch the Lon Chaney one.

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#7 Post by Eric Draven » 31 Dec 2005, 00:08

althought I didn't like it, I'm going to guess Million Dollar Baby
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#8 Post by Brodieman » 31 Dec 2005, 06:57

Of Mice and Men
Wonder Boys
About a Boy
Out of Sight
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#9 Post by Wes » 31 Dec 2005, 08:02

The Quiet American.

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#10 Post by capsicum » 31 Dec 2005, 08:58

Last Temptation of Christ
The Grapes of Wrath
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#11 Post by Wes » 01 Jan 2006, 03:20

And definitly One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. Which is already nominated.

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#12 Post by Agrajag » 04 Jan 2006, 15:43

Eric Draven wrote:althought I didn't like it, I'm going to guess Million Dollar Baby
"guess"??? This isn't the N3TITO thread you know? ;-) I enjoyed it and think it's worth the nomination...

up to 50 nominations... I guess I might open this up to plays->films if we need to fill out the brackets but I'll wait a bit longer for more people to notice/nominate films

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#13 Post by capsicum » 04 Jan 2006, 16:26

Maltese Falcon
Treasure of the Sierra Madre
From Here To Eternity
Breakfast at Tiffanys
Dr Zhivago
Cool Hand Luke
The Graduate
The Exorcist
Scent of a Woman
Midnight Express
All The Presidents Men
Fried Green Tomatoes
Apocalypse Now
Terms Of Endearment
Goodfellas
Schindlers List
Wonder Boys
Adaptation
Sideways
A Beautiful Mind
Election
Primary Colors
on and on and on and on and on
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#14 Post by Agrajag » 04 Jan 2006, 19:03

capsicum wrote:on and on and on and on and on
Good list.. we may need you to go on and on and on... I've only participated in these tourneys, never really looked at how they started... Should I call off nominations and pare down our list of 71 to 64? Or should we plow through and try for 128? We can open up this list to plays -> films for more to draw from... Plus there have only been 5 people nominating here (besides me) Is there interest in this??? I figured the holidays might have kept some from seeing this. Let me know if you want to do this and if the tourney puffed out to 128 if that would make you more or less inclined to participate.

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#15 Post by Mazer » 04 Jan 2006, 21:08

Field of Dreams
Howard's End
Room with a View
Sense and Sensibility (I suppose it's too much to ask for the P and P miniseries?)

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#16 Post by Fat Head » 04 Jan 2006, 23:39

Catch-22
Johnny Mnemonic
1984
2001: A Space Odyssey (not sure if this counts...based on a mix of short stories i think)
The Great Gatsby
American Psycho
Fahrenheit 451
Lord of the Flies
The Bonfire of the Vanities
The World According to Garp
and a ton of john grisham books...i will choose...the firm

I think all the films i have chosen are very much better as books apart from 2001

I see someone listed Adaptation, i dont think that it started life as a book although watching the film anything is possible

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#17 Post by capsicum » 04 Jan 2006, 23:53

Fat Head wrote: I see someone listed Adaptation, i dont think that it started life as a book although watching the film anything is possible

i picked adaptation because it was nominated for Best Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published, which I assumed meant susan orleans book "The Orchid Thief"

Thats my reasoning...
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#18 Post by alan smithee » 05 Jan 2006, 00:35

capsicum wrote:
Fat Head wrote: I see someone listed Adaptation, i dont think that it started life as a book although watching the film anything is possible

i picked adaptation because it was nominated for Best Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published, which I assumed meant susan orleans book "The Orchid Thief"

Thats my reasoning...
Though Adaptation. is certainly not a direct adaptation of The Orchid Thief, the former certainly inspired (as was the requirement of the first post) the latter. FWIW, The Orchid Thief is a real Susan Orlean book, though
Spoilotron2000 wrote:Laroche and Orlean don't find a ghost orchid in the book; the out-of-control ending doesn't occur (and not just because Charlie and Donald Kaufman don't appear in the book).
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

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#19 Post by Agra » 05 Jan 2006, 12:16

Just remembered and will probably forget unless I post it here:

Shrek

Plus a perusal of wikipedia made me realize the following were based on books:
All About Eve
American Splendor
Apollo 13
Babe
City of God
Cool Hand Luke
Dr. Strangelove
Forrest Gump
Full Metal Jacket
Godfather Part II (guess the book is pretty big)
Last Picture Show
O Brother Where Art Thou :duh:
The Pianist
The Player
Quiz Show
Rear Window
Rebecca
Young Frakenstein

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#20 Post by McT » 05 Jan 2006, 13:53

The Thin Man
Dangerous Minds
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#21 Post by Ridilon » 05 Jan 2006, 16:18

How about The Outsiders and Rumblefish. Both pretty good flicks. Perhaps not superb caliber, but very good films I say.

And how about Gone With the Wind?
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#22 Post by Humphrey » 06 Jan 2006, 04:06

McT wrote:The Thin Man
:green:

Also
Kiss Me, Deadly
The Big Sleep
Yojimbo (from Red Harvest)
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#23 Post by Agrajag » 07 Jan 2006, 16:48

Mazer wrote:(I suppose it's too much to ask for the P and P miniseries?)
I'm gonna have to say no... TV miniseries are on a different level than films. 300 minutes is a lot of movie! Maybe a Book into Miniseries tourney after this ;-)
Fat Head wrote:Lord of the Flies
I'm going to assume you're thinking of the B&W 1963 version cause I think that's more popular/revered than the Color remake
Humphrey wrote:Yojimbo (from Red Harvest)
imdb's Trivia page confirmed this although several other movies on this list has a (novel) (uncredited) listed in the Writing credits... don't know why this doesn't

I added Road to Perdition & Requiem for a Dream so we need 14 more movies and we're ready to start.... I want to shoot to start this next Saturday. If we don't have enough good nominations by Wednesday I guess we can fill it out with bad films from books.

Would The Nightmare Before Christmas count? Based on the poem "The Night Before Christmas"???

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#24 Post by F.N.G. » 08 Jan 2006, 02:26

If you're struggling for other entries, why not the other Thomas Harris books (Red Dragon, Hannibal, Manhunter in particular deserves a shout).
Same for Chrichton, King etc.

Re: Nightmare Before Christmas... that's stretching it a bit, don't you think?

And how about When the Wind Blows?
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#25 Post by Gren » 08 Jan 2006, 05:12

Get Shorty
Jackie Brown
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