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This thread is a continuation of Guitar Hero and Rock Band discussion from the "General video games discussion" thread.



FW spreadsheet (viewing only; send PM to JJ with your e-mail address to get editing access to add your scores)

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I tried to play on a wii tonight and I was terrible. The timing on the wii seemed to be slightly off.

Can you tell if this is because the Wii version sucks, or if it's something else (e.g., your friend has it tweaked wrong, you aren't used to some difference in the two controllers, etc.)? I'm sick of waiting for RB for Wii, so I'm considering getting GHIII (that is my only Wii option for now, right?) for the Wii.

Does anyone else have any experience with the game on a Wii?


I think it was just a slight difference in the time to hit the notes. The worst part was looking like a dick because "something was clearly wrong with the guys guitar controller."

hopefully tweaking the settings will make that problem go away ...

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Can you put the link to the FW Spreadsheet (viewing only: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= ... mdeA&hl=en -- send PM to JJ with your e-mail address to get editing access to add your scores) on the top post?

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I've graduated to medium on GHIII, and finding it a bit of a struggle. Still managed to get over 80% on Talk Dirty to Me and that Pat Benetar one. Slow Ride is really difficult on medium!

Is is possible to get 5-stars on Easy on the PS2? I've had over 95% in some songs and still only come out with a "mediocre 3-star review". Did get 4-stars on Ruby on the first attempt though :D


It's quite possible. Simplest way to get high scores:

1) Constantly hit star sequences to acquire "star power"
2) Wait until multiplier is at 4x and long string of notes is coming
3) Activate star power, hit lots of notes at 8x

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Can you put the link to the FW Spreadsheet (viewing only: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= ... mdeA&hl=en -- send PM to JJ with your e-mail address to get editing access to add your scores) on the top post?

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smithee -- the only real Wiissue I've heard for GHIII is that the original version sent to consumers was not stereo. (This may or may not be much of an issue, depending on your tv setup.) They're exchanging that version for a stereo version if you complain.

So, if you buy it, you may want to make sure you can get the stereo version (that is, if you can make sure of that). Or exchange it if you can't.

Read more here: http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

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Sonofabitch. I can't get past 4-stars on Dragonforce on medium. I just bested my previous high by 14k and I'm still short. I felt like I played my ass off, too.

JJ, what score do I need for 4 and 5 stars on that? I looked around scorehero a bit for the answer but didn't find it and now I need to get ready to go to work.

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Sonofabitch. I can't get past 4-stars on Dragonforce on medium. I just bested my previous high by 14k and I'm still short. I felt like I played my ass off, too.

JJ, what score do I need for 4 and 5 stars on that? I looked around scorehero a bit for the answer but didn't find it and now I need to get ready to go to work.


:4stars: cutoff in the range of 191,358 - 203,431
:5stars: cutoff in the range of 278,895 - 288,985

Source: http://www.scorehero.com/songstats.php

(The actual cutoffs haven't been determined/verified.)

And I'm well behind you on this song, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. (My high is in the low 100,000s, though I think I may have been too embarrassed to publish it in our spreadsheet.)

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smithee -- the only real Wiissue I've heard for GHIII is that the original version sent to consumers was not stereo. (This may or may not be much of an issue, depending on your tv setup.) They're exchanging that version for a stereo version if you complain.

So, if you buy it, you may want to make sure you can get the stereo version (that is, if you can make sure of that). Or exchange it if you can't.

Read more here: http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

ty; I'll read that

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I've graduated to medium on GHIII, and finding it a bit of a struggle. Still managed to get over 80% on Talk Dirty to Me and that Pat Benetar one. Slow Ride is really difficult on medium!

Is is possible to get 5-stars on Easy on the PS2? I've had over 95% in some songs and still only come out with a "mediocre 3-star review". Did get 4-stars on Ruby on the first attempt though :D


It's quite possible. Simplest way to get high scores:

1) Constantly hit star sequences to acquire "star power"
2) Wait until multiplier is at 4x and long string of notes is coming
3) Activate star power, hit lots of notes at 8x

ty. Tried that, and got 5-stars on the first 8 songs. And now have RSI :s

Do you need a Google email address to sign into your spreadsheet thing? Clicked on the link and it says I need to sign in using my Google addy. Can go and create one if needs be.

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yw (smithee); I also suggest someone try messing with the lag on any version of any game with their system, and report back results.

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yw (DrG) -- you don't need a Gmail account, but you do need to register your own e-mail account with google.

What is RSI?

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yw (DrG) -- you don't need a Gmail account, but you do need to register your own e-mail account with google.

What is RSI?

repetitive stress injury (e.g., carpal tunnel syndrome)

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yw (DrG) -- you don't need a Gmail account, but you do need to register your own e-mail account with google.

What is RSI?


RockStarItis

Its symptoms include an increased ego and libido and a decreased iq.

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JJ wrote:
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Sonofabitch. I can't get past 4-stars on Dragonforce on medium. I just bested my previous high by 14k and I'm still short. I felt like I played my ass off, too.

JJ, what score do I need for 4 and 5 stars on that? I looked around scorehero a bit for the answer but didn't find it and now I need to get ready to go to work.


:4stars: cutoff in the range of 191,358 - 203,431
:5stars: cutoff in the range of 278,895 - 288,985

Source: http://www.scorehero.com/songstats.php

(The actual cutoffs haven't been determined/verified.)

And I'm well behind you on this song, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. (My high is in the low 100,000s, though I think I may have been too embarrassed to publish it in our spreadsheet.)


Thanks for that. My work internet blocks anything it perceives as fun or games. Filmwise, thankfully, is immune.

I wondered why you didn't have a score posted for Fire and Flames. I think we're pretty close to each other's skill levels and the only real difference in most of our scores is where in our experience we played the songs (i/e I played most of the GHII easy songs after playing through medium whereas I'm guessing you played them when you were just beginning.)

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Sonofabitch. I can't get past 4-stars on Dragonforce on medium. I just bested my previous high by 14k and I'm still short. I felt like I played my ass off, too.

JJ, what score do I need for 4 and 5 stars on that? I looked around scorehero a bit for the answer but didn't find it and now I need to get ready to go to work.


:4stars: cutoff in the range of 191,358 - 203,431
:5stars: cutoff in the range of 278,895 - 288,985

Source: http://www.scorehero.com/songstats.php

(The actual cutoffs haven't been determined/verified.)

And I'm well behind you on this song, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. (My high is in the low 100,000s, though I think I may have been too embarrassed to publish it in our spreadsheet.)


Thanks for that. My work internet blocks anything it perceives as fun or games. Filmwise, thankfully, is immune.

I wondered why you didn't have a score posted for Fire and Flames. I think we're pretty close to each other's skill levels and the only real difference in most of our scores is where in our experience we played the songs (i/e I played most of the GHII easy songs after playing through medium whereas I'm guessing you played them when you were just beginning.)


We are close in skill. Though I think I lag behind you on any song that involves hitting a single note many times in succession. My strumming is not consistent, and my sense of beat is lousy. (I think this is one area actually playing an/the instrument helps.)

Maybe I make up for that in some other area, so that I can still stay ahead of you on other (non-repetitive note) songs.

Yes, I've not really gone back and nailed many of the areas I was once just happy to pass.

[For those repetitive note songs, you either hit every one and get a great score, or you don't and you don't. 95% on those notes is no good.]

I've played TTFAF three times, I think. Passed it every time, but nothing to be proud of.

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Oh, and do you tilt the guitar or hit "select" to activate star power? I now have four guitars (three for GH, one for RB), all with completely different sensitivities to tilting.

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Oh, and do you tilt the guitar or hit "select" to activate star power? I now have four guitars (three for GH, one for RB), all with completely different sensitivities to tilting.


I didn't know you could hit select. I have always just gone with the tilt. Unfortunately, I play with the guitar slung pretty low and the neck slightly tilted up so I end up inadvertently setting it off some times.

On that stupid Wii I played on last night I just about had to jump up and down to get the star power to go off.

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Rights are yours. Anyone else wanting to track scores?


There are so some songs for the 360 versions that aren't on your list. Should I add them to the bottom of the list or make a special section for them?


Put them on the bottom, please.


I added the songs but I'm afraid I screwed up your formulas. Sorry and stuff.

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Also, on the songs I added to the GHII pages I out them at the bottom with the other bonus songs even though they are actually part of the main setlist on my version.

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Also, on the songs I added to the GHII pages I out them at the bottom with the other bonus songs even though they are actually part of the main setlist on my version.


Thanks. And if you haven't checked out the videos of this kid, you should:

http://forums.videogamechat.net/showthread.php?t=4329

(See him get 95% on TTFAF on expert.)

He's 9.

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Awesome. Downloaded and played the Charlie Daniels song, which was hard.

But it inspired me to go back to Raining Blood on Medium. Got my :5stars: finally. The Jolly Roger is mine.

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Awesome. Downloaded and played the Charlie Daniels song, which was hard.

But it inspired me to go back to Raining Blood on Medium. Got my :5stars: finally. The Jolly Roger is mine.


For Raining Blood, I still screwed up a few times on those long green strings at the start. I needed to basically nail the rest. Stupid long green strings.

Then I got mad because I made a stupid mistake on Ruby, which cost me my first Medium sightread full combo. Fortunately, I got one two songs later on that stupid Steve Ouimette Xmas special.

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Awesome. Downloaded and played the Charlie Daniels song, which was hard.

But it inspired me to go back to Raining Blood on Medium. Got my :5stars: finally. The Jolly Roger is mine.


Devil Went Down to Georgia is insane. It doesn't get nearly enough credit for being as hard as it is (although I've spent a total of about 10 minutes reading scorehero so it's not like I really have my finger on the pulse of the guitar hero community.)

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