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#1 Post by Agrajag » 29 Jul 2006, 09:01

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#2 Post by Agrajag » 29 Jul 2006, 09:04

Have seen bits and pieces of games in certain movies (most recently in Look Both Ways). I just have no idea what the game's about. I tried reading wiki's entry about rules and objects but it's too long for a sport I currently care so little about.

Could anyone give a short explanation of wickets, overs, etc.?
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#3 Post by F.N.G. » 29 Jul 2006, 12:00

Over - depending on the length of game (one dayers wtc), a test match normally lasts for two sets of 50 overs. An over is 6 balls by the bowler.

So one team bats, gets as many runs as they can get in the 50 overs OR until they're all out (a wicket) OR until they declare (say they have enough, your turn). Then the next team bats and tries to get more. Then the first team, then the second UNLESS the second team got so few runs in their first set of 50 that the opposing team force them to FOLLOW ON (basically setting them a score to beat). The team with the most runs at the end of both innings wins.
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#4 Post by Hiller » 29 Jul 2006, 12:10

Is there a DH or does the pitcher hit?
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#6 Post by JJ » 29 Jul 2006, 15:23

I think he meant to call the thread "crickets".
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#7 Post by AlottaFagina » 30 Jul 2006, 00:01

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#8 Post by Agrajag » 31 Jul 2006, 15:09


Agrajag wrote:Could anyone give a short explanation of wickets, overs, etc.?

That's where I went before posting here but it seemed too long to read at the time and was hoping for something easier. I'm sure F.N.G.'s post makes sense to a cricket watcher, but to me, it's mostly gibberish. It's too complicated a game, I suppose, for a simple explanation. I probably will read the wiki article sometime (if I ever care to remotely understand the game)
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#9 Post by F.N.G. » 01 Aug 2006, 00:35

I'll try to break it down.

Innings: Each team play two of these. Up to 50 overs, during which time the batters try to amass as many runs as possible.

Over: 6 bowls. An over where no runs are dropped is known as a 'maiden over'.

Wicket: If a batter is made out, it is known as a wicket. 10 wickets = all out.

6: If a batsman hits the ball off the pitch in the air the team are awarded 6 runs.

4: If a batsman hits a ball off the field and it bounces or rolls off, the team are awarded four point.

Duck: If a batsman is out for 0 runs it is known as a duck. If he gets out from his first bowl it is known as a golden duck.

Extras: poor bowling gives extra runs to the batting team, these are added to the score.

Basic aims:

To get the opposing team out for as few runs as possible, whilst getting as many for your own team as possible.

How to get out:

1) If the bowler hits the stumps.
2) If you hit the ball (even just slightly) and get caught.
3) LBW=leg before wicket. If your leg blocks the stumps, but the ball would have hit them, you are out (umpire's decision)
4) Stumped- if your foot goes over the crease (line on the floor) and the wicket keeper (like a catcher in baseball) catches the ball and hits the stumps.
5) Run out- if you run, your batting partner (2 batters are on the pitch at one time, opposite ends) has to run. If they are stumped, because of miscomminucation or just being a lardass, they are out, and it's your fault.

Tests:
A test match lasts 5 days. This is to aim to achieve all 4 innings. Of course, in England the weather will rob you of at least 1 1/2 days of play.
If there is no clear winner (i.e. the batting team is still in play) at the end of the match and there are still overs to play, but time has beaten you, it is declared a draw.
If you score 350 runs in your forst innings (350-all out); the opposing team then score 300; you score 300 and then bowl the opposing team out for 250 then you have won by 100runs.
If, however, their second innings they get 351 runs (say only 4 of them have got out), then they win by 1 run with 6 wickets to spare.

It's really pretty simple, but the best way is to watch it. Whaen it gets complicated is when the commentators start naming the bowls (e.g. googlies), that can get annoying.
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#10 Post by Philip » 01 Aug 2006, 01:27

F.N.G. wrote:Innings: Each team play two of these. Up to 50 overs, during which time the batters try to amass as many runs as possible.

An innings is a team's turn at bat. In test match cricket, each team has two innings in which to score more total runs than their opponent. In one-day cricket (aka. limited overs), each team has one inning in which to build the largest score and the number of overs is limited (50 and 20 are common).

F.N.G. wrote:Wicket: If a batter is made out, it is known as an inning. 10 innings = all out.

Wicket has a few meanings. It can mean making an out (i.e. "losing your wicket") as F.N.G. stated, it can mean the stumps (the three sticks and two bails at each end of the pitch) and it is also often used to mean the playing pitch. Commentators will talk about the state of the wicket in terms of whether it favors the batsmen or the bowlers.

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#11 Post by Gren » 01 Aug 2006, 04:43

F.N.G. wrote:When it gets complicated is when the commentators start naming the bowls (e.g. googlies), that can get annoying.

I don't think the intricacies of cricket are any more complicated than other sports, once you understand context.
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#12 Post by DrG » 01 Aug 2006, 09:21

And the fielding positions have great names, like silly mid off, silly mid on, silly point, leg gully and square short leg :D
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#13 Post by Hiller » 01 Aug 2006, 10:21

DrG wrote:And the fielding positions have great names, like silly mid off, silly mid on, silly point, leg gully and square short leg :D


Seriously?

Are there cricket stadiums (stadia?) or do they just play in a big field? How many spectators?
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#14 Post by F.N.G. » 01 Aug 2006, 10:28

Hiller wrote:
DrG wrote:And the fielding positions have great names, like silly mid off, silly mid on, silly point, leg gully and square short leg :D


Seriously?

Are there cricket stadiums (stadia?) or do they just play in a big field? How many spectators?


There are cricket stadiums and the national team get thousands of spectators. Although most of them seem to just be there to get a tan and read the paper.
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#15 Post by sldawgs » 01 Aug 2006, 10:44

So where does "Sticky Wicket" come from?

To me any game that has to be "limited" to just one day seems to make Soccer look interesting (Just my opinion, nothing against Soccer or Cricket).
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#16 Post by DrG » 01 Aug 2006, 13:25

F.N.G. wrote:
Hiller wrote:
DrG wrote:And the fielding positions have great names, like silly mid off, silly mid on, silly point, leg gully and square short leg :D


Seriously?

Are there cricket stadiums (stadia?) or do they just play in a big field? How many spectators?


There are cricket stadiums and the national team get thousands of spectators. Although most of them seem to just be there to get a tan and read the paper.

Agreed. If you go to watch a test match, county championship match, or a one day match you will be there for the whole day. It's just one big long picnic with a fair amount of drinking and larking about from the livelier sections of the crowd. When there is a big test match on TV, the cameras always focus on groups of blokes in fancy dress. I used to live next to the cricket ground at Headingley in Leeds and it was always a good laugh to see people going into the ground with half their worldly goods - blankets, picnic hampers, cushions, brollies, massive rucksacks, camping stoves, coolers full of beer. Of course, they've stopped you taking alcohol into the ground now, but ten years ago you could take cans in.

And here are some pics of a couple of famous grounds. Headingley (in Leeds) is where Yorkshire play. The bottom one is Lord's (in London), the most famous ground and the home of the Marylebone Cricket Club ...

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#17 Post by Philip » 01 Aug 2006, 14:32

F.N.G. wrote:
Hiller wrote:
DrG wrote:And the fielding positions have great names, like silly mid off, silly mid on, silly point, leg gully and square short leg :D


Seriously?

Are there cricket stadiums (stadia?) or do they just play in a big field? How many spectators?


There are cricket stadiums and the national team get thousands of spectators. Although most of them seem to just be there to get a tan and read the paper.


In England maybe but it's life and death in South Asia. As Ashis Nandy puts it, "cricket is an Indian game that was accidentally discovered by the English". His essay, "The Tao of Cricket" is worth reading by anyone interested in cricket or the Indian psyche. Or both.

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#18 Post by JJ » 01 Aug 2006, 14:34

I'd play if I could throw at Big Douchie's head.
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#19 Post by Punisher » 02 Aug 2006, 01:28

Despite the fact that the Sri Lankans are currently kicking our asses, cricket roolz. But it did take me a while to wrap my head around the ins and outs (har har) of the game. One thing though - we definitely need more hott players in cricket. I'm not overly familiar with other teams because they all seem to chop and change so much, but there is no decent perve material at all in the South African team. A real shame.
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#20 Post by Hiller » 02 Aug 2006, 03:58

How is the US team doing?
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#21 Post by Punisher » 02 Aug 2006, 04:04

Hiller wrote:How is the US team doing?

Hott.
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#22 Post by Humphrey » 04 Aug 2006, 00:04

Hiller wrote:How is the US team doing?

There are only a limited number of nations who are deemed good enough to play test match cricket. These are (roughly from best to least good):
Australia
England
India
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
South Africa
New Zealand
West Indies
Zimbabwe
Bangladesh

There are other cricket-playing nations, but they only play limited overs cricket. The US, Canada, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, the Netherlands and a few others have cricket teams, but they are nowhere near good enough to be taken seriously as cricketing nations.
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#23 Post by Punisher » 04 Aug 2006, 00:30

And I think after today's test match performance South Africa will be moving a couple more places down on that list. Retards.
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#24 Post by Humphrey » 04 Aug 2006, 01:20

Punisher wrote:And I think after today's test match performance South Africa will be moving a couple more places down on that list. Retards.

Well I already took that into account when making up this rough list. I still think you'd have no problem pounding the Windies, the Kiwis, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.
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#25 Post by Punisher » 04 Aug 2006, 01:22

Humphrey wrote:
Punisher wrote:And I think after today's test match performance South Africa will be moving a couple more places down on that list. Retards.

Well I already took that into account when making up this rough list. I still think you'd have no problem pounding the Windies, the Kiwis, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

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Actually you were almost dead on with those test match rankings. According to the ICC, the official test rankings are:

Australia
Pakistan
England
India
Sri Lanka
South Africa
New Zealand
West Indies
Zimbabwe
Bangladesh

At least we do better in the one day international rankings:

Australia
South Africa
Pakistan
India
New Zealand
Sri Lanka
West Indies
England
Zimbabwe
Bangladesh
Kenya
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