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Yes the Jabba scene in Star Wars is bad... but the remake of the entire Sy Snootles band number in Jedi is worse... they turned it into a crazy ass CGI vegas number. What the hell was up with that?!

I have no problem with him cleaning up the special effects and the sound... but when his changes change the story... that's just wrong.

I still can't believe how vocal he was about colorizing The Three Stooges because it was messing with a classic.. and at the same time he does this to his movies.

I don't think he's a greedy bastard... just a selfish assmonkey that can't leave well enough alone.

If he would just release the originals with the sound and special effects cleaned up... I would be happy... happy enough to buy his special editions as well if that was the only way I could get them.

My bet... is that if he does it at all... it will be when he realses all 6 movies again in a "Special Collector's Edition" Boxed Set... that has 15 discs or something in it.

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I don't think the changes will neccesarily defile my childhood memories or anything, I just think they are unneccesary. But, they probably won't prevent me from buying the DVD set. Since I never got around to buying the films on VHS, my only options are buying the DVD set or spending a ridiculous amount of money for the VHS set on eBay (I've tried to buy it and have been outbid every time :-? ).

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if I could suggest any changes, in Episode VI I'd probably have ... more cowbell.

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(and :D)

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The changes won't defile my childhood because I have no childhood memories of Greedo shooting first.


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someone explain why i should hate george lucas...i don't mind hopping on a bandwagon if it makes sense...

I don't know if this will be persuasive enough for ya, but I just think it's creepy how he just won't leave the films alone. What other director continues to tweak his films for 25+ years?! Sure, many of them make adjustments to the sound quality, picture quality, etc. of a film before its DVD release. That's quite understandable. Many have chosen to release a "director's cut" that brings the film closer to the original artistic vision. That's quite understandable as well. When a film is first released, the finished product (though meddling by the studio and such) can sometimes stray quite a bit from a director's original plan.

Lucas, on the other hand, seems to be obsessed with constantly bringing the films up-to-date with the latest technology. They are science fiction films! The biggest risk with releasing a science fiction film is that technology will continue to advance after it is released. Advancements in special effects will continue to occur after it is released. It is inevitable that eventually the special effects in a film will look dated. Most people are smart enough to view a film in the context of the technology that was available at the time.

But Lucas will not accept this and move on, no matter how many times fans say they like the films (no, love the films) exactly as they are. He will continue to tweak these films until the day he dies, at which point, the person designated in his will will continue to update the films until he is dead, and so on, and so on.


Rumour has it the next version of Ep IV wil have Han dodging Greedo's shot in "bullet time" :roll:


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Can't wait for the 30th anniversary edition in which Greedo throws a walkie-talkie at Han. :D


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Can't wait for the 30th anniversary edition in which Greedo throws a walkie-talkie at Han. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I must confess, I saw Episode IV seven times in 1977 after it first came out and I don't ever remember seeing Greedo shoot at all. I thought Han just shot him because he was threatening him. However, that never made me think that Han was at all villainous, just pragmatic.

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Can't wait for the 30th anniversary edition in which Greedo throws a walkie-talkie at Han. :D


or this:

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ok, we've all bitched about all the changes. Who's buying it tomorrow?

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ok, we've all bitched about all the changes. Who's buying it tomorrow?


Exactly :lol:

I debated whether or not I should hang out at Super Wal-Mart until 12 tonite but I get off at 6 and my nerdisms only go so far.


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ok, we've all bitched about all the changes. Who's buying it tomorrow?

I'm George Lucas' bitch. I preordered it.


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Here in Europe it was released today, and I heard something about a record for pre-release orders. I don't know if I'll be buying it though - I was never a great fan, and I'm still trying to save up for the Godfather box. :)


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Not me. 8)

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Here in Europe it was released today, and I heard something about a record for pre-release orders. I don't know if I'll be buying it though - I was never a great fan, and I'm still trying to save up for the Godfather box. :)

or the Blow Dry Super Special Edition.

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Yeah, I'm waiting for that too. And the director's cut of La Cucaracha, with a feature-length commentary by Eric Roberts.


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Yeah, I'm waiting for that too. And the director's cut of La Cucaracha, with a feature-length commentary by Eric Roberts.


The director of La Cucaracha also got circumcised? Geez, ever since the DVD media became popular, this has become a trend.

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Am I buying the box set tomorrow?

Well, let me answer that questin this way:

"Cut the chatter, Red Two. Accelerate to attack speed."


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"Cut the chatter, Red Two. Accelerate to attack speed."

"Wedge... pull out... you're not doing any good back there!"

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Got my lovely boxset through the post this morning (I LOVE Amazon). Only managed to watch A New Hope so far.

Liked the way some things have been tidied up a bit, eg the light sabres and the speeder.

However, why George Lucas had to go an stick a load of CG shit in the Mos Eisley scene is beyond me. It just looks totally out of place. I know the film is only 27 years old, but it does look old, and all the fancy new bits just serve to make the original bits look older

It it ain't broke, don't fix it ... etc etc etc :x

And just because I've always wanted to use this emoticon: :starwars:

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A2 wrote:
ok, we've all bitched about all the changes. Who's buying it tomorrow?


I refuse to answer...

If I say no I will just go out and get it...

So maybe.

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ok, we've all bitched about all the changes. Who's buying it tomorrow?


I'm buying it... but I'm not rushing out today to get it. Maybe if Target has it on sale or something.


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ok, we've all bitched about all the changes. Who's buying it tomorrow?


I'm buying it... but I'm not rushing out today to get it. Maybe if Target has it on sale or something.


It was $43 + tax at Target today. Wal-Mart might be a little cheaper.


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Yeah, so I definitely just got it. George Lucas owns me.

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Can't wait for the 30th anniversary edition in which Greedo throws a walkie-talkie at Han. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I must confess, I saw Episode IV seven times in 1977 after it first came out and I don't ever remember seeing Greedo shoot at all. I thought Han just shot him because he was threatening him. However, that never made me think that Han was at all villainous, just pragmatic.


:green:

And I'll probably get it. I mean, I don't have them on VHS, so there is no other way, really.

(Plus I've never seen Empire all the way through)

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