Freaks and Geeks

Whether it be Lost or The Simpsons, this is the place to discuss all your favourite TV shows -- current and cancelled.
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
Nunis
Queen of FilmWise
Queen of FilmWise
Posts: 27601
Joined: 23 Aug 2001, 16:00
Gender: Female
Location: Sweden

Freaks and Geeks

#1 Post by Nunis » 03 Jul 2006, 07:55

Why don't we have a proper F&G thread, anyway?

Spikel7l
Academy Award Winner
Academy Award Winner
Posts: 1382
Joined: 18 Jul 2004, 20:48

#2 Post by Spikel7l » 03 Jul 2006, 11:04

It would be too nerdy.
Doot dooo do do do

Jen M
Lead Actor
Lead Actor
Posts: 360
Joined: 03 Oct 2001, 16:00
Gender: Male
Location: Dallas-ish, TX

#3 Post by Jen M » 03 Jul 2006, 11:43

Best. Show. Ever!

User avatar
alan smithee
Sheila1313 Memorial Award Recipient
Sheila1313 Memorial Award Recipient
Posts: 38938
Joined: 28 Jan 2003, 14:22
Gender: Male
Location: San Francisco

#4 Post by alan smithee » 03 Jul 2006, 12:13

Jen M wrote:Best. Show. Ever!
Image
It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

User avatar
Agrajag
Better in Real Life
Better in Real Life
Posts: 18810
Joined: 03 May 2004, 08:33
Gender: Male
Location: Well we're living here near Allentown...
Contact:

#5 Post by Agrajag » 05 Jul 2006, 17:17

Jen M wrote:Best. Show. Ever!
Image

Actually, these three are probably my favorite 3 short-lived series of all time.... Thank God for TV on DVD
If you wake up at a different time in a different place could you wake up as a different person?

Jen M
Lead Actor
Lead Actor
Posts: 360
Joined: 03 Oct 2001, 16:00
Gender: Male
Location: Dallas-ish, TX

#6 Post by Jen M » 06 Jul 2006, 18:24

AD I can agree with, but I could never get into Sports Night. I don't know, maybe if I ever catch up on Netflix I'll rent it and try again.

Favorite F&G moments, off the top o'my head:

- Sam dancing in front of the mirror in his Parisian night suit
- Nick auditioning for the band
- Nick disco dancing
- Daniel's fake cry/speech about track 1, track 2, track 3
- the entire "Dead Dogs and Gym Teachers" episode

User avatar
Agrajag
Better in Real Life
Better in Real Life
Posts: 18810
Joined: 03 May 2004, 08:33
Gender: Male
Location: Well we're living here near Allentown...
Contact:

#7 Post by Agrajag » 10 Jul 2006, 17:53

Jen M wrote:AD I can agree with, but I could never get into Sports Night. I don't know, maybe if I ever catch up on Netflix I'll rent it and try again.

Favorite F&G moments, off the top o'my head:

- Sam dancing in front of the mirror in his Parisian night suit
- Nick auditioning for the band
- Nick disco dancing
- Daniel's fake cry/speech about track 1, track 2, track 3
- the entire "Dead Dogs and Gym Teachers" episode
- Bill talking to the mirror as The Bionic Woman :D
If you wake up at a different time in a different place could you wake up as a different person?

User avatar
Batman
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Posts: 29762
Joined: 26 Jan 2004, 07:54
Gender: Male
Location: Gotham's seedier side

Re: Freaks and Geeks

#8 Post by Batman » 28 Apr 2014, 05:26

I'm only a mere 15 years behind the times, but I finally got a chance to check out this series. I binged all 18 episodes in a week. Based on the stars, I was expecting a comedy rather than a coming-of-age drama. Speaking as someone who actually was in high school in 1980, I can confirm that it seemed pretty accurate.

Besides the obvious stars (James Franco, Seth Rogan and Jason Segel) it was pretty wild seeing and recognizing:

Joel Hodgson from "MST3K"

Rashida Jones

Ben Stiller

David Koechner

Lizzy Caplan from Cloverfield

Kevin Tighe from "Emergency!" and "Lost"

Jason Schwarzman

Leslie Mann

Jessica Campbell from Election
Robin: "Gosh, Batman, is there anything you don't know?"
Batman: "Oh yes, Robin. Several things, in fact."


Image

User avatar
Batman
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Posts: 29762
Joined: 26 Jan 2004, 07:54
Gender: Male
Location: Gotham's seedier side

Re: Freaks and Geeks

#9 Post by Batman » 28 Apr 2014, 06:20

So, I wasn't satisfied with only 18 episodes and was curious as to where the show would have gone had we seen another series. Here's what I found:

Paul Feig: What Would’ve Happened to Every Character in Freaks and Geeks’ Lost Second Season (Drugs! Pregnancies! Republicanism!)
By Robert Lloyd

Image
The cast of Freaks and Geeks.

The Oral History of Freaks and Geeks
Although Freaks and Geeks never got within hailing distance of a second season, that didn’t stop Paul Feig and Judd Apatow from imagining what might become of their characters in a further future.

“I would keep my own private notes as the season went along,” says series creator Paul Feig, “but there was never a time when we sat around a table and said, ‘Let’s plan Season Two.’ It was really more just ‘Hey, it would be funny if’ or ‘This would be cool.’ But we so knew the writing was on the wall: We never got too deep into it, because we never thought it was going to happen.”

One thing he knew for sure was that, had the show gone on, his kids wouldn’t have stayed in high school forever. “It was going to become much more of a story of a small town and who gets out and who doesn’t.” And he still dreams of turning the series into a stage musical. “I want to bring the spirit of failure that I brought to TV to the Broadway stage. ‘Guys, don’t worry—you’re going to lose a lot of money up front, but 10 years from now people are going to be talking about this play.’” Read more of Feig's Freaks and Geeks Season Two predictions below:

Photos: The Exclusive Freaks & Geeks Reunion

Lindsay Weir (Linda Cardellini)
Paul Feig: I always figured something bad was gong to happen to Lindsay when she was out with the Dead. [The series ended with her ditching a summer-school program to follow the Grateful Dead with Kim Kelly.] I was hoping the second season would open with her being taken out of a concert on a stretcher while Queen’s “Tie Your Mother down” plays. That’s all I had. But I thought it would be interesting—she comes back, has completely lost the trust of her family; so she’s in even deeper having been really been outed as a problem. But there wasn’t a strong direction I had for her; I just knew she’d probably end up at some point in her twenties in Greenwich Village as a performance artist, and after that she’d probably become a lawyer—a human-rights lawyer.

Sam Weir (John Francis Daley)
Sam’s future was going to be drama club. Because that was my experience in school: I got deep into drama club. That was the storyline I was most excited about, because I was going to portray what actually happened to me. I thought he’d be more on the stage crew than actually performing, just because that was kind of interesting, the guys that were keeping it together from behind the scenes. But my drama teacher, who was one of the biggest influences on my life creatively, was an alcoholic, and over the course of my sophomore through senior year, she got worse and worse and started depending on me. I’d get called away from class under the guise of an emergency, and it would be her on the phone saying, “You’ve got to come pick me up. I left my car at the bar last night.” So I was really excited to get that going, this weird kind of taking-care-of-an-adult relationship, while he’s still learning amazing stuff from her, this tortured drama-teacher soul. That bummed me out the most, not getting to play that story out.

Neal Schweiber (Samm Levine)
Another burning desire I had was to get Neal into swing choir. Now Glee has taken it and run with it, but I always thought that would be a funny world for Neal to go into. There’s a weird little clique, and you have all these inside jokes, and all these kind of obnoxious performance things you bond with people over—I just thought he would really blossom in there and think he was kind of the king of the school. We figured it could be his outlet while his parents are going through a really horrible divorce. Since Judd had gone through that in his real life, that was kind of going to be his domain—telling all his tales from adolescence through that.


Bill Haverchuck (Martin Starr)
With his mom dating Coach Fredricks, Judd and I liked the idea of Bill slowly becoming a jock—that he turned out to be good at basketball and started to get into it, so that he was getting pulled a little more over to the jock side. Which would create an odd little rift with him and the other geeks. Because Martin is quite athletic in real life, and we were like, “Oh, let’s maybe play that out for him.” He works out a lot, Martin does, and at the beginning of the show he would come in with these giant biceps—we had to make him stop doing that.

Daniel Desario (James Franco)
Daniel’s such a drifter. I always liked the idea that eventually Daniel would probably end up in jail. [Laughs.] We were kind of, you know, taking him in this different direction. I wasn’t quite sure where that was going to lead. I knew it couldn’t stay in that world. I always liked the idea of: you go away for the summer and you come back and everybody’s kind of in a different place. But it’s hard to say with him; I think he had too many things pulling him in different directions. Having lost Kim, there would be a weirdness between them. But I wasn’t quite sure yet.

Kim Kelly (Busy Philipps)
I wanted Kim Kelly to be pregnant, but it wasn’t necessarily going to be Daniel’s. I thought this actually happened when she was out on the road with Lindsay following the Dead—that she shacked up with some guy, whether she was high at the moment or whatever, and comes back pregnant. That was another burning desire of mine, because when we were in high school there’d always be a girl or two who were pregnant, and it was so mind blowing. I thought it would be interesting with Daniel kind of around, and it’s not his, and it’s weird—and would he step up, since she doesn’t really know who the dad is, or isn’t really in contact with him? So maybe it was a chance for Daniel to become a young teen father—see what could have happened if we had a second season? And Kim and Lindsay—that would become a true friendship. Obviously they would have to have some back and forth and falling apart, but I like the girl power they had at the end of the last episode—they had both come through the fire in different ways and really bonded hardcore.

Nick Andopolis (Jason Segel)
I liked how we were kind of moving Nick towards having to go into the army, because of his badass dad. ’Cause that was a real option for so many people in my school—but he would be desperately trying to avoid it. But I was never quite clear exactly what direction we were going to go with Nick.

Ken Miller (Seth Rogen)
There was a guy I knew in school who was kind of Ken-like and he moved away to Hawaii; we were told he moved there just so he could smoke pot. I don’t know if that was the direction Ken was going to go. I always liked that we had set up that he had rich parents. But Ken’s such an enigma. I think he’s the guy that just kind of hangs around town. My instinct is we would have had the most fun searching for what his life would be. We liked to surprise people with Ken’s character—what was the thing you’d least expect he would do, or place he’d come from? I can completely see us loading him up with a lot of weird shit. I was sad we never got to show his parents, and God only knows whom we would have had him dating. I can definitely see a scenario where Lindsay would have tried dating Ken—that would be really funny. High-school romances are so flash-in-the-pan; there’s that awkwardness of having your ex walking around the school. Or, in my case, girls who turned me down but I had the awkwardness of them knowing I was into them and they had no interest in me.

Millie Kentner (Sarah Hagan)
We had actually thought about trying to turn Millie into a burnout at some point—“What? You’re what?” It would have been really fun to twist where she was going. I love changing people’s alliances. Because no one knows who they are or what they’re doing—basically they’re trying on different hats, different masks, if you will.

Cindy Sanders (Natasha Melnick)
We ended with Cindy as such a hardcore Republican. I liked her being a weird nemesis for Sam—I would have loved seeing them run against each other for student-council president. There’s nothing funnier to me than when the person you were in love with suddenly becomes this monster. You can’t figure out why you liked them. I think we would have had a lot of fun with Cindy.

Mr. Kowchevsky (Steve Bannos) and Mr. Rosso (Dave “Gruber” Allen)
We established [in the episode “The Little Things”] that [math teacher] Mr. Kowchevsky was gay, but we didn’t end up using that scene. I loved that storyline and was looking forward to playing with that, having it get out. [Guidance counselor] Rosso’s always on such a journey of discovery; it would have been fun to put him through some crises. I love that he had a band—Dave (Gruber) Allen and I actually had a band at the time; we were the house band at a place in Burbank called the Butcher’s Arms. We played there every weekend. There’s something funny to me about guys who won’t have a career in music but who are still trying to start a band at the age when you probably shouldn’t be trying to start a band. We could have had a permanent set of some low-rent club where Rosso was in the house band.

Harold and Jean Weir (Joe Flaherty and Becky Ann Baker)
Mr. and Mrs. Weir just kind of go along their way and have their crises of trying to figure what to do about Lindsay and how to protect her. And then Sam, whatever problems he has coming up.

Unseen Images from the Set of Freaks and Geeks
Robin: "Gosh, Batman, is there anything you don't know?"
Batman: "Oh yes, Robin. Several things, in fact."


Image

User avatar
sldawgs
FilmWise's Best Friend
FilmWise's Best Friend
Posts: 34544
Joined: 16 Feb 2006, 17:57
Gender: Male
Location: Sheila's Dungeon...oh no! Shhh, she's coming.
Contact:

Re: Freaks and Geeks

#10 Post by sldawgs » 28 Apr 2014, 07:27

Batman wrote:I'm only a mere 15 years behind the times, but I finally got a chance to check out this series. I binged all 18 episodes in a week. Based on the stars, I was expecting a comedy rather than a coming-of-age drama. Speaking as someone who actually was in high school in 1980, I can confirm that it seemed pretty accurate.

Besides the obvious stars (James Franco, Seth Rogan and Jason Segel) it was pretty wild seeing and recognizing:

Joel Hodgson from "MST3K"

Rashida Jones

Ben Stiller

David Koechner

Lizzy Caplan from Cloverfield

Kevin Tighe from "Emergency!" and "Lost"

Jason Schwarzman

Leslie Mann

Jessica Campbell from Election
Don't forget John Francis Daley in Bones.
I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!
Image Image Image

User avatar
Batman
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Posts: 29762
Joined: 26 Jan 2004, 07:54
Gender: Male
Location: Gotham's seedier side

Re: Freaks and Geeks

#11 Post by Batman » 28 Apr 2014, 07:42

sldawgs wrote:
Batman wrote:I'm only a mere 15 years behind the times, but I finally got a chance to check out this series. I binged all 18 episodes in a week. Based on the stars, I was expecting a comedy rather than a coming-of-age drama. Speaking as someone who actually was in high school in 1980, I can confirm that it seemed pretty accurate.

Besides the obvious stars (James Franco, Seth Rogan and Jason Segel) it was pretty wild seeing and recognizing:

Joel Hodgson from "MST3K"

Rashida Jones

Ben Stiller

David Koechner

Lizzy Caplan from Cloverfield

Kevin Tighe from "Emergency!" and "Lost"

Jason Schwarzman

Leslie Mann

Jessica Campbell from Election
Don't forget John Francis Daley in Bones.
I've never seen that. Is it good?
Robin: "Gosh, Batman, is there anything you don't know?"
Batman: "Oh yes, Robin. Several things, in fact."


Image

bing
Verdana 10pt
Verdana 10pt
Posts: 14573
Joined: 24 Oct 2002, 00:05
Gender: Male
Location: Harlem rock city
Contact:

Re: Freaks and Geeks

#12 Post by bing » 28 Apr 2014, 08:18

I noticed a while back that of all the future success people from F&G had, the freaks had by far the lion's share of it.

User avatar
Batman
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-FilmWise!
Posts: 29762
Joined: 26 Jan 2004, 07:54
Gender: Male
Location: Gotham's seedier side

Re: Freaks and Geeks

#13 Post by Batman » 28 Apr 2014, 08:27

bing wrote:I noticed a while back that of all the future success people from F&G had, the freaks had by far the lion's share of it.
The positive power of pot.
Robin: "Gosh, Batman, is there anything you don't know?"
Batman: "Oh yes, Robin. Several things, in fact."


Image

User avatar
sldawgs
FilmWise's Best Friend
FilmWise's Best Friend
Posts: 34544
Joined: 16 Feb 2006, 17:57
Gender: Male
Location: Sheila's Dungeon...oh no! Shhh, she's coming.
Contact:

Re: Freaks and Geeks

#14 Post by sldawgs » 28 Apr 2014, 08:32

Batman wrote:
sldawgs wrote:Don't forget John Francis Daley in Bones.
I've never seen that. Is it good?
It's a different take on a police procedural. It focuses on forensics of the body and the bones of the victims. It makes forensic anthropology and forensic archaeology interesting. John Francis Daley doesn't join the cast until season 3 or 4.
I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!
Image Image Image

Post Reply